Well, Joe, sometimes I disagree. Not this time. One hundred percent behind ya on this one — no matter what the deplorable idiot will say. Even if he does let’s agree on what his ignorance deserves: We’ll just ignore him.
I don't think that I've been 100% on any political issue.
I'm sorry that my post is just too complicated for you to understand. Your inability to respond to my post directly demonstrates completely your lack of intellect and knowledge, otherwise you could respond directly. You aren't going to get any sympathy from me on either. Go ahead and keep whining to Klein, it seems to be what motivates him.
Sorry to see this forum has become inhabited by “deplorable” trolls. As for me, I could not agree more with everything you say in this piece Joe. Keep up the good work!
Klein, You entertain me with your stupidity and ignorance:
I knew even before you even posted your blather that your small mind would erupt with nothing but unfounded, unintelligent, uninformed, low-testosterone criticism for President Trump’s efforts to tackle the biggest terrorism threat in the world and to do what no other US President before him has had the gonads to do by taking on the radical Islamic Mullah’s apocalyptic regime in Iran.
Joe, you demonstrate your ignorance and incompetence right up front that you can’t think like a high risk, new business endeavor creator like President Trump. You don’t possess the intellectual capacity to understand that in high risk, high uncertainty ventures, things never work out how you hope they will at the start. But, if you don’t take the chance and try something different, you will never have another data point from which to triangulate, and with multiple iterations you may find success. But otherwise, the opportunity cost of not doing anything may be greater than the cost of failure. I doubt that trigonometry or business strategy were subjects you mastered. It entertains me that worthless liberal arts pundits always claim to know the right course and yet are never correct.
Fortunately, President Trump corrected the foolish Obama/Kerry Iran nuclear deal without putting boots on the ground. And we know that President Trump isn’t done yet. So, sit back, shut-up and relax and watch the master Dealmaker in Chief show you how it’s done.
Really? Are 8 emojis the pinnacle of your intellectual capability? Do you not have anything to contribute from whatever cognitive thinking capability that you may possess?
So happy to have your thoughts on opportunity. Makes me think of another great strategist, Adolph Hitler. He was master of western Europe, but he couldn't resist the high opportunity venture of invading the Soviet Union. He could be master of Eurasia! How did that work out? As you note, "things never work out how you hope they will at the start". Sad that I lack sufficient imagination, but what can you expect from low I.Q. dotards like me and Joe Klein.
Only idiots, fundamentally mental retards, compare current events to Adolph Hitler. You have to be way down the IQ curve if that is the only thought that you can pull from your vacant ideological inventory.
"The one paragraph in Mr. Trump’s preliminary deal that addresses the nuclear program requires Iran to “down-blend” — essentially dilute — the approximately 11 tons of enriched nuclear material in its possession, including 970 pounds that are enriched to 60 percent, just short of bomb grade. But it does not require Iran to surrender that material and ship it out of the country.
Under the Obama-era deal, Iran sent about 97 percent of its stockpile to Russia."
"The memorandum commits the United States to supporting the establishment of a $300 billion reconstruction fund for Iran, and it opens the door to the unfreezing of billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets held around the world."
"The preliminary agreement makes no mention of curbing Iran’s ballistic missile program, a major concern of Israel’s and a goal set by administration officials in the early days of the war. Iran’s missile program has allowed it to reach targets across the region, including in Israel.
Asked about the issue, Mr. Vance repeated Mr. Trump’s assertion that it was impossible to tell any country that it could not defend itself.
That is a turnabout for an administration that in March described the destruction of Iran’s ballistic missiles as one of the goals of the war. “The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran’s short-range ballistic missiles,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said then."
Your "master Dealmaker" has made a great deal - for Iran!
1. The retarded Obama/Kerry deal had no realistic inspection provisions for anything and the Mullahs can't be trusted to adhere to any agreement. Furthermore, President Trump has already stated that Iran doesn't have the technical ability to extract the nuclear dust. So as long as we can monitor the burial sites by satellite, it's not a significant negotiation issue at this point.
2. No US taxpayer funds go to the $300billion reconstruction fund.
3. I think it would be difficult to get the Mullahs to give up all tactical missiles given the neighboring countries have them. I agree with the POTUS and VPOTUS. The quantity and range of these missiles will part of the negotiation.
4. I also agree with SOS Marco Rubio that this military exercise successfully eliminated Iran's ability to produce an "overwhelming" ballistic missile shield for it's nuclear weapon development effort. The final details and controls for Iran's missiles are still in negotiation.
I'm sorry that all this dealmaking is just all to complicated for all the Trump haters to understand. My Dealmaker in Chief has done what no other US President has had the gonads to do and few people have the intelligence to understand how masterfully President Trump has choreographed the biggest improvement in middle east political harmony in history.
Sorry that facts are too complicated for your limited intellect to understand and respond to. And MAGA is a movement, not a cult. Perhaps you should stick to playing with your crayons.
Joe, you seem to have picked up the dumbest of the Trump trolls as followers and critics. Mazel Tov! I don’t think it is how long before we recover, it is whether we can ever recover. Certainly not in our lifetime.
This is completely divorced from reality. President Trump signed a surrender the exact same way Harry S. Truman signed a surrender on the USS Missouri back on Sept. 2, 1945. If you believe stopping before you nuke the entire country back into the stone age is surrender, you simply have no idea what you are talking about.
And he accomplished...what? Indeed, he accomplished more last year with his surgical strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. Also, you should understand: Japan surrendered to us. We surrendered to Iran--I don't what you can call $400B in reparations other than a defeat.
Ummm, er, Truman never signed the surrender on the Missouri. He wasn’t there. His appointed representative, Gen. Douglas MacArthur was present and did.
Trump's betrayal of the Iranians is arguably worse than his betrayal of the Ukrainians. At least with the Ukrainians, he clearly transmitted that he preferred their Authoritarian foes and they were essentially on their own - and their own ingenuity and the growing support of Europe appears as though it may well save the day. For the Iranian people yearning for just a touch of freedom, he cruelly indicated that the US was going to do - something and, of course, it was all BS. And something like 20,000 Iranians paid for their raised hope with their lives. As miserable as his track record is on the economic and domestic front, the chaos he has created throughout the world is arguably even greater.
Repairing our nation's standing and military is going to be a substantial task and it is one reason among many why the Democratic nominee in 2028 would be well served to have either military or national service experience. Recognizing US vulnerabilities -supply chains, satellite dependency, drone illiteracy, and a near complete unwillingness to sustain casualties- is going to be critical if we are going to sustain any sort of presence in the world. Many Democrats, no less than the Republicans, are showing signs of descending into puerile and simpering self-pity, it is one of many trends we must find a way to counter.
President Trump tried his best to help millions of Iranians in Iran and throughout the world end the religious control of their country. Not satisfied with killing 30,000 of there own people they were prepared to die in their thousands to keep their regime.
Thank you President Trump for giving it a go. Well done. But you can't fight stupid.
Surprisingly, another battle where President Trump can't fight stupid is right here.
Read todays column and weep at stupidity in its finest form.
"Actually, one doesn’t have to wonder all that hard: cults be cults."
Yes, and the Democrats are completely controlled by the transqueer cult that insists that any male claiming a female "gender identity" must have full access to any and all female-only spaces, events, competitions, prisons (the most egregious of all the horrors). This is already the law in most blue states, and EVERY Democrat in Congress is a co-sponsor of a bill (the so-called "Equality Act") to make it the law nationwide. Famed "moderate" Joe Biden called for the immediate passage of this law in every one of his four state-of-the-union addresses. Only Republican opposition has kept it from passing.
I have been a registered Democrat for over 50 years, but today I would rather be ruled by the MAGA cult than by the transqueer cult.
Excellent, although horribly depressing. Also a question: Just how much more desperate and dangerous will a defeated and embarrassed Donald Trump become? We should all be terrified at the prospect.
Thank you, Mr. Klein for the article. I agree with your assessment of this situation. Remember your journalist and I truly enjoy your banter with Mr. Joe Trippi.
Well, Joe, sometimes I disagree. Not this time. One hundred percent behind ya on this one — no matter what the deplorable idiot will say. Even if he does let’s agree on what his ignorance deserves: We’ll just ignore him.
I don't think that I've been 100% on any political issue.
I'm sorry that my post is just too complicated for you to understand. Your inability to respond to my post directly demonstrates completely your lack of intellect and knowledge, otherwise you could respond directly. You aren't going to get any sympathy from me on either. Go ahead and keep whining to Klein, it seems to be what motivates him.
Ignored. Offensive.
Thanks for proving my point. Sorry that the truth hurts.
Sorry to see this forum has become inhabited by “deplorable” trolls. As for me, I could not agree more with everything you say in this piece Joe. Keep up the good work!
Only those who can't think for themselves believe everything Joe Klein says, especially since so much of it isn't true.
Klein, You entertain me with your stupidity and ignorance:
I knew even before you even posted your blather that your small mind would erupt with nothing but unfounded, unintelligent, uninformed, low-testosterone criticism for President Trump’s efforts to tackle the biggest terrorism threat in the world and to do what no other US President before him has had the gonads to do by taking on the radical Islamic Mullah’s apocalyptic regime in Iran.
Joe, you demonstrate your ignorance and incompetence right up front that you can’t think like a high risk, new business endeavor creator like President Trump. You don’t possess the intellectual capacity to understand that in high risk, high uncertainty ventures, things never work out how you hope they will at the start. But, if you don’t take the chance and try something different, you will never have another data point from which to triangulate, and with multiple iterations you may find success. But otherwise, the opportunity cost of not doing anything may be greater than the cost of failure. I doubt that trigonometry or business strategy were subjects you mastered. It entertains me that worthless liberal arts pundits always claim to know the right course and yet are never correct.
Fortunately, President Trump corrected the foolish Obama/Kerry Iran nuclear deal without putting boots on the ground. And we know that President Trump isn’t done yet. So, sit back, shut-up and relax and watch the master Dealmaker in Chief show you how it’s done.
Deplore This translated: Up is down. He works for the Ministry of Truth.
LOL! Joe, you’ve exceeded my expectations with yet another fact free comment from you. How much have you hit the hard liquor tonight?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really? Are 8 emojis the pinnacle of your intellectual capability? Do you not have anything to contribute from whatever cognitive thinking capability that you may possess?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣
Must say, Deplore This, your commitment to seeing the US laughed at and reviled is . sort of impressive. But why do you hate your country so?
Child masquerading as an adult; didn’t your mommy let you stay up to see how much the G7 leaders congratulated President Trump?
So happy to have your thoughts on opportunity. Makes me think of another great strategist, Adolph Hitler. He was master of western Europe, but he couldn't resist the high opportunity venture of invading the Soviet Union. He could be master of Eurasia! How did that work out? As you note, "things never work out how you hope they will at the start". Sad that I lack sufficient imagination, but what can you expect from low I.Q. dotards like me and Joe Klein.
Only idiots, fundamentally mental retards, compare current events to Adolph Hitler. You have to be way down the IQ curve if that is the only thought that you can pull from your vacant ideological inventory.
"The one paragraph in Mr. Trump’s preliminary deal that addresses the nuclear program requires Iran to “down-blend” — essentially dilute — the approximately 11 tons of enriched nuclear material in its possession, including 970 pounds that are enriched to 60 percent, just short of bomb grade. But it does not require Iran to surrender that material and ship it out of the country.
Under the Obama-era deal, Iran sent about 97 percent of its stockpile to Russia."
"The memorandum commits the United States to supporting the establishment of a $300 billion reconstruction fund for Iran, and it opens the door to the unfreezing of billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets held around the world."
"The preliminary agreement makes no mention of curbing Iran’s ballistic missile program, a major concern of Israel’s and a goal set by administration officials in the early days of the war. Iran’s missile program has allowed it to reach targets across the region, including in Israel.
Asked about the issue, Mr. Vance repeated Mr. Trump’s assertion that it was impossible to tell any country that it could not defend itself.
That is a turnabout for an administration that in March described the destruction of Iran’s ballistic missiles as one of the goals of the war. “The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran’s short-range ballistic missiles,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said then."
Your "master Dealmaker" has made a great deal - for Iran!
Try to keep up:
1. The retarded Obama/Kerry deal had no realistic inspection provisions for anything and the Mullahs can't be trusted to adhere to any agreement. Furthermore, President Trump has already stated that Iran doesn't have the technical ability to extract the nuclear dust. So as long as we can monitor the burial sites by satellite, it's not a significant negotiation issue at this point.
2. No US taxpayer funds go to the $300billion reconstruction fund.
3. I think it would be difficult to get the Mullahs to give up all tactical missiles given the neighboring countries have them. I agree with the POTUS and VPOTUS. The quantity and range of these missiles will part of the negotiation.
4. I also agree with SOS Marco Rubio that this military exercise successfully eliminated Iran's ability to produce an "overwhelming" ballistic missile shield for it's nuclear weapon development effort. The final details and controls for Iran's missiles are still in negotiation.
I'm sorry that all this dealmaking is just all to complicated for all the Trump haters to understand. My Dealmaker in Chief has done what no other US President has had the gonads to do and few people have the intelligence to understand how masterfully President Trump has choreographed the biggest improvement in middle east political harmony in history.
Never mind. You just keep repeating the same MAGA drivel, regardless of the topic. The cult is alive and unwell.
Sorry that facts are too complicated for your limited intellect to understand and respond to. And MAGA is a movement, not a cult. Perhaps you should stick to playing with your crayons.
Joe, you seem to have picked up the dumbest of the Trump trolls as followers and critics. Mazel Tov! I don’t think it is how long before we recover, it is whether we can ever recover. Certainly not in our lifetime.
This is completely divorced from reality. President Trump signed a surrender the exact same way Harry S. Truman signed a surrender on the USS Missouri back on Sept. 2, 1945. If you believe stopping before you nuke the entire country back into the stone age is surrender, you simply have no idea what you are talking about.
And he accomplished...what? Indeed, he accomplished more last year with his surgical strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. Also, you should understand: Japan surrendered to us. We surrendered to Iran--I don't what you can call $400B in reparations other than a defeat.
Ummm, er, Truman never signed the surrender on the Missouri. He wasn’t there. His appointed representative, Gen. Douglas MacArthur was present and did.
Darin, I agree with your point. But historically it was Douglas MacArthur who signed Japan's surrender agreement, not Truman.
Keep it up! You are on the right side of patriotism.
You may be right, but am more than willing to give it 60 days to see what unfolds, before judging it.
Iran will have a bomb by the time he leaves office.
They'll make sure of that.
Trump's betrayal of the Iranians is arguably worse than his betrayal of the Ukrainians. At least with the Ukrainians, he clearly transmitted that he preferred their Authoritarian foes and they were essentially on their own - and their own ingenuity and the growing support of Europe appears as though it may well save the day. For the Iranian people yearning for just a touch of freedom, he cruelly indicated that the US was going to do - something and, of course, it was all BS. And something like 20,000 Iranians paid for their raised hope with their lives. As miserable as his track record is on the economic and domestic front, the chaos he has created throughout the world is arguably even greater.
Repairing our nation's standing and military is going to be a substantial task and it is one reason among many why the Democratic nominee in 2028 would be well served to have either military or national service experience. Recognizing US vulnerabilities -supply chains, satellite dependency, drone illiteracy, and a near complete unwillingness to sustain casualties- is going to be critical if we are going to sustain any sort of presence in the world. Many Democrats, no less than the Republicans, are showing signs of descending into puerile and simpering self-pity, it is one of many trends we must find a way to counter.
President Trump tried his best to help millions of Iranians in Iran and throughout the world end the religious control of their country. Not satisfied with killing 30,000 of there own people they were prepared to die in their thousands to keep their regime.
Thank you President Trump for giving it a go. Well done. But you can't fight stupid.
Surprisingly, another battle where President Trump can't fight stupid is right here.
Read todays column and weep at stupidity in its finest form.
And unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be any cure for stupid.
"Actually, one doesn’t have to wonder all that hard: cults be cults."
Yes, and the Democrats are completely controlled by the transqueer cult that insists that any male claiming a female "gender identity" must have full access to any and all female-only spaces, events, competitions, prisons (the most egregious of all the horrors). This is already the law in most blue states, and EVERY Democrat in Congress is a co-sponsor of a bill (the so-called "Equality Act") to make it the law nationwide. Famed "moderate" Joe Biden called for the immediate passage of this law in every one of his four state-of-the-union addresses. Only Republican opposition has kept it from passing.
I have been a registered Democrat for over 50 years, but today I would rather be ruled by the MAGA cult than by the transqueer cult.
Just finished Courage Can Save Us. Thanks Joe for recommending it. Great stories about dedicated public servants leading with integrity and honor.
Excellent, although horribly depressing. Also a question: Just how much more desperate and dangerous will a defeated and embarrassed Donald Trump become? We should all be terrified at the prospect.
Thank you, Mr. Klein for the article. I agree with your assessment of this situation. Remember your journalist and I truly enjoy your banter with Mr. Joe Trippi.
Talk about a surrender monkey -- but this one eats Big Macs rather than cheese.
Ummm, er, Truman never signed the surrender on the Missouri. He wasn’t there. His appointed Gen. Douglas MacArthur who was present and did sign.