When you peel back the Trump Derangement Syndrome and the irrational hate of everything Trump, Joe provides one thread of truth here about Iran: “But I suspect that … the plot is too complicated for the writers’ room.” Joe, by referencing the disgraced NYTimes with yet another report based upon unnamed sources (or as we know from experience, nonexistent), you demonstrate how out of touch you are. These military exercises have been an overwhelming success, yet the liars in the lamestream media try to spin everything as negative. As Mark Penn posts:
“The (lamestream media) headlines abound:
* Iran Regime doing well, in control
* Trump under pressure to end war
* Khomeini son just as tough as Father
* US responsible for missile on school
One headline after another essentially featuring Iranian propaganda as the news. Where are the headlines:
* 50 Iranian ships sunk
* Iranian military assets destroyed
* Leadership tries to put on good showing despite internal chaos
The press is a drumbeat of negativity favoring the Iran regime. It’s puzzling at this point how any success is buried.
The reality is likely the regime is being pummeled on all sides and has no ability to provide for its people. Maybe it can put on a good show for another week or two but its leadership is under immense pressure. But that’s not what the American public is getting from mainstream media.”
Joe, I pity you that these “are people I [you] admire”.
Joe, there is something that “reflects the views of most Iranians”; that is the prayed for end of the current authoritarian, brutally oppressive, apocalyptic, mullah regime that is persecuting the Iranian people. This repressive regime is supported by only 15% of the population, yet it has forced a ruthless, authoritarian, tyranny on the rest of the 90 million Iranian population (mostly Persians and Kurds) by inflicting despicable, brutal, inhuman barbarity. It is well reported that only a month ago the IRG murdered ~32,000 peaceful protestors against their regime, including going into hospitals and shooting the wounded protesters and the medical staff who tried to protect them. Please provide a link to any NYTimes article reporting that news.
Where is the reporting that:
1. The US and Israel military mission coordination is at a level between nations that has never been achieved before, unprecedented between any two military powers in history?
2. That this military exercise has destroyed almost all of Iran’s nuclear weapon capability, most of its ballistic missile and drone capability and its navy including their production capacity to rebuild. The remaining war effort is merely mopping up what is left of the IRG's arsenal.
3. President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu have sent messages to the Iranian people that their country is not the target of this military exercise, that the apocalyptic regime that oppresses their freedoms is the target.
4. That the IRG has shut down the state television system, but Elon Musk has provided Starlink phones to Iranian citizens so that they can keep informed with the outside world (and also provide intelligence).
5. That neighboring Arab countries have unprecedently joined forces with the US and Israel against the IRG, further demonstrating the Noble Peace Prize worthy success of President Trump’s Abraham accords.
Joe, since you and the rest of the lamestream media aren’t capable of reporting the news, I believe you should pay me the $9.00 subscription to your stack to educate you.
Here are some more highlights from this story:
A. 85% of Iranian citizens detest living under the cruel oppression of the current Mullah regime and drastically want regime change, but are understandably fearful of the lethal consequences if they revolt against this regime.
B. Both President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu have clearly messaged to the Iranian people that the US and Israel are not going to initiate regime change (like the deep-state CIA did in Iran in 1953 that sowed this mess). Both Trump and Netanyahu have encouraged Iranian citizens to seize the moment because another may not happen in a generation.
C. There have been some accidents, limited as they were, but among them were:
i. The US accidentally bombing a girl’s school in Tehran (as tragic as that is, we know the Iranian regime greatly exaggerated the number of casualties). Of course, the lamestream media never reports that the US only bombs military targets, while the IRG mostly bombs civilian targets in Israel and their neighboring Arab states.
ii. On Saturday night, Israel bombed ~90 fuel depots in Iran going against the previous dictates of President Trump, who is now incensed at the Israelis Military Command. Not only did this take a card out of Trump's hand while looking to negotiate a US partnership for oil and gas production, like he negotiated in Venezuela, but it also sent a false message to Iranians that this action was over Iran the country, rather than against the oppressive Mullah regime (which is not the US objective).
D. And my opinion is that this conflict is the posterchild case for 2nd amendment rights for citizens to own and bear arms. If Iranian citizens had these rights, it is unlikely they would still be in this predicament. Joe, if you want to try to justify your “right to form a “militia”” misunderstanding of the 2nd amendment as the only legitimate reason to bear arms, bring it on. I am an excellent shot, including with ideological discourse, as I'm sure you've discovered by now.
E. Iran has nothing to do with Cuba. The Trump administration is strangling Cuba through sanctions and embargos. But, unlike Iran and Russia and their oil and natural gas and weapons trade with China, Cuba isn’t strategic, other than being a thorn in the side of the US because of Cuba's geographic proximity. Keep your eye on the ball Joe.
Finally, concerning your comment that “no one has any idea yet of what “this” is or will turn out to be.”; I'm sorry that this is so complicated for you to understand but we can at least identify the possible outcomes:
I. This exercise inflicts so much damage there is a possible revolt of the Iranian people against this regime.
II. Someone emerges, like in Venezuela, who the US can work with. Personally, I think there must be a contingent of political prisoners who are locked within the IRG’s gulags who are known to Israelis intelligence with whom the US can partner. Thinking outside of the box, for which President Trump is a master, perhaps it’s time for a US orchestrated jailbreak supplied with arms to overthrow the IRG.
III. The Mullah’s retain iron handed / brutal control but there is so much damage to their war arsenal that the whole country will continue to stew as the non-IRG Iranian citizens languish in brutal suppression until and if they decide to act, an action that will be horribly bloody.
I pray for the Iranians that they choose freedom now. How do we supply them with arms? Perhaps we should consult B. Hussein Obama, he has already disastrously armed cartels with Operation Fast and Furious.
That’s all you get for free Joe. Do you want to setup an account for a monthly subscription?
Bruce, yet another fact free comment from you. Of what I stated, what exactly is malinformation? And once again, does your mommy know that you are playing with the computer?
Once the ball started rolling it will just keep rolling until it is settled one way or another. Just which way we are no where near having an answer for that.
The Iranians know at least about revenge and retribution as Donald Trump, so even after capitulation or middle-of-the night withdrawal, this will not be over for a long time. Take solace in the fact that even 10 years from now, the next Democratic president can blame everything on DJT. Talk about retribution...
It seems unlikely that we will avoid an attempt to change the regime in Cuba. Isn’t that Marco Rubio’s primary motivation? Everything else is just proof of concept
When you peel back the Trump Derangement Syndrome and the irrational hate of everything Trump, Joe provides one thread of truth here about Iran: “But I suspect that … the plot is too complicated for the writers’ room.” Joe, by referencing the disgraced NYTimes with yet another report based upon unnamed sources (or as we know from experience, nonexistent), you demonstrate how out of touch you are. These military exercises have been an overwhelming success, yet the liars in the lamestream media try to spin everything as negative. As Mark Penn posts:
“The (lamestream media) headlines abound:
* Iran Regime doing well, in control
* Trump under pressure to end war
* Khomeini son just as tough as Father
* US responsible for missile on school
One headline after another essentially featuring Iranian propaganda as the news. Where are the headlines:
* 50 Iranian ships sunk
* Iranian military assets destroyed
* Leadership tries to put on good showing despite internal chaos
* Khomeini appointment creates hereditary theocracy
* War plan progress unprecedented
The press is a drumbeat of negativity favoring the Iran regime. It’s puzzling at this point how any success is buried.
The reality is likely the regime is being pummeled on all sides and has no ability to provide for its people. Maybe it can put on a good show for another week or two but its leadership is under immense pressure. But that’s not what the American public is getting from mainstream media.”
Joe, I pity you that these “are people I [you] admire”.
Joe, there is something that “reflects the views of most Iranians”; that is the prayed for end of the current authoritarian, brutally oppressive, apocalyptic, mullah regime that is persecuting the Iranian people. This repressive regime is supported by only 15% of the population, yet it has forced a ruthless, authoritarian, tyranny on the rest of the 90 million Iranian population (mostly Persians and Kurds) by inflicting despicable, brutal, inhuman barbarity. It is well reported that only a month ago the IRG murdered ~32,000 peaceful protestors against their regime, including going into hospitals and shooting the wounded protesters and the medical staff who tried to protect them. Please provide a link to any NYTimes article reporting that news.
Where is the reporting that:
1. The US and Israel military mission coordination is at a level between nations that has never been achieved before, unprecedented between any two military powers in history?
2. That this military exercise has destroyed almost all of Iran’s nuclear weapon capability, most of its ballistic missile and drone capability and its navy including their production capacity to rebuild. The remaining war effort is merely mopping up what is left of the IRG's arsenal.
3. President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu have sent messages to the Iranian people that their country is not the target of this military exercise, that the apocalyptic regime that oppresses their freedoms is the target.
4. That the IRG has shut down the state television system, but Elon Musk has provided Starlink phones to Iranian citizens so that they can keep informed with the outside world (and also provide intelligence).
5. That neighboring Arab countries have unprecedently joined forces with the US and Israel against the IRG, further demonstrating the Noble Peace Prize worthy success of President Trump’s Abraham accords.
Joe, since you and the rest of the lamestream media aren’t capable of reporting the news, I believe you should pay me the $9.00 subscription to your stack to educate you.
Here are some more highlights from this story:
A. 85% of Iranian citizens detest living under the cruel oppression of the current Mullah regime and drastically want regime change, but are understandably fearful of the lethal consequences if they revolt against this regime.
B. Both President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu have clearly messaged to the Iranian people that the US and Israel are not going to initiate regime change (like the deep-state CIA did in Iran in 1953 that sowed this mess). Both Trump and Netanyahu have encouraged Iranian citizens to seize the moment because another may not happen in a generation.
C. There have been some accidents, limited as they were, but among them were:
i. The US accidentally bombing a girl’s school in Tehran (as tragic as that is, we know the Iranian regime greatly exaggerated the number of casualties). Of course, the lamestream media never reports that the US only bombs military targets, while the IRG mostly bombs civilian targets in Israel and their neighboring Arab states.
ii. On Saturday night, Israel bombed ~90 fuel depots in Iran going against the previous dictates of President Trump, who is now incensed at the Israelis Military Command. Not only did this take a card out of Trump's hand while looking to negotiate a US partnership for oil and gas production, like he negotiated in Venezuela, but it also sent a false message to Iranians that this action was over Iran the country, rather than against the oppressive Mullah regime (which is not the US objective).
D. And my opinion is that this conflict is the posterchild case for 2nd amendment rights for citizens to own and bear arms. If Iranian citizens had these rights, it is unlikely they would still be in this predicament. Joe, if you want to try to justify your “right to form a “militia”” misunderstanding of the 2nd amendment as the only legitimate reason to bear arms, bring it on. I am an excellent shot, including with ideological discourse, as I'm sure you've discovered by now.
E. Iran has nothing to do with Cuba. The Trump administration is strangling Cuba through sanctions and embargos. But, unlike Iran and Russia and their oil and natural gas and weapons trade with China, Cuba isn’t strategic, other than being a thorn in the side of the US because of Cuba's geographic proximity. Keep your eye on the ball Joe.
Finally, concerning your comment that “no one has any idea yet of what “this” is or will turn out to be.”; I'm sorry that this is so complicated for you to understand but we can at least identify the possible outcomes:
I. This exercise inflicts so much damage there is a possible revolt of the Iranian people against this regime.
II. Someone emerges, like in Venezuela, who the US can work with. Personally, I think there must be a contingent of political prisoners who are locked within the IRG’s gulags who are known to Israelis intelligence with whom the US can partner. Thinking outside of the box, for which President Trump is a master, perhaps it’s time for a US orchestrated jailbreak supplied with arms to overthrow the IRG.
III. The Mullah’s retain iron handed / brutal control but there is so much damage to their war arsenal that the whole country will continue to stew as the non-IRG Iranian citizens languish in brutal suppression until and if they decide to act, an action that will be horribly bloody.
I pray for the Iranians that they choose freedom now. How do we supply them with arms? Perhaps we should consult B. Hussein Obama, he has already disastrously armed cartels with Operation Fast and Furious.
That’s all you get for free Joe. Do you want to setup an account for a monthly subscription?
Deplore, Your world view has been shaped by completely absorbing over 30 years of malinformation from Fox, et al.
Bruce, yet another fact free comment from you. Of what I stated, what exactly is malinformation? And once again, does your mommy know that you are playing with the computer?
Smart. Informed.
Once the ball started rolling it will just keep rolling until it is settled one way or another. Just which way we are no where near having an answer for that.
The Iranians know at least about revenge and retribution as Donald Trump, so even after capitulation or middle-of-the night withdrawal, this will not be over for a long time. Take solace in the fact that even 10 years from now, the next Democratic president can blame everything on DJT. Talk about retribution...
How's everyone doing? Still alive?
It seems unlikely that we will avoid an attempt to change the regime in Cuba. Isn’t that Marco Rubio’s primary motivation? Everything else is just proof of concept