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Very broad brush here on liberals. Liberals - as opposed to the "left liberals" you refer to - actually understand human nature better that conservatives. Their predictions tend to more optimistic but "liberal" societies produce a more flourishing, happier, safer society - again painting with a broad brush. Liberalism, as a political tendency, tends to be more accurate in its predictions of how incentives work in economics and social control. When liberal societies become unsafe - NYC in the 70's, say - liberals are generally better at self-correction - Koch. Not perfect - see Dinkins v. 1st Giuliani administration - but it goes with the territory. Conservatives have a tougher time self-correcting - also goes with the territory. Conservatives are a necessary corrective when liberals are in thrall to interest groups, but not sufficient, in other words.

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Well, depends on how you define "liberals." Classical liberals, certainly, have no part in this. But left-liberals, both socialist and lifestyle, fall into the "social justice" trap. Koch was hardly one of those. It has amazed, and disappointed, me lately how few liberals of any sort will concede ANYTHING on Transylvania, abortion or immigration...I put them in the same league as right-wing extremists. But thanks for your comment.. I appreciate the conversation.

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May 22, 2023Liked by Joe Klein

Yes, it does depend on the definition. I was thinking about "classical" liberals of which I suppose I am one. Frequently wrong and always in doubt.

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PS- However, I concede nothing on Transylvania. Totally dug in on that.

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It's so refreshing to find a fellow Democrat who says stuff that actually makes sense to me.

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